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the congregation disagreed with tamerlan and he was quote, shouted out of the mosque. speculation continues about why these two young men may have conspired to kill en masse, as the country marks a week since the deadly bombing. in medford, massachusetts, the funeral for 29-year-old victim, krystle campbell began just over an hour ago and at 2:50 p.m., president obama will join the city of boston in a moment of silence, mayor menino will observe the time from boston common. joining me washington bureau chief of the the "huffington post," graham, and the grio editor, joy reid and the deputy director of the "national journal." >> and pete, there's a lot of information that's come out over course of the weekend. we know that the fbi is interrogating dzhokhar tsarnaev. what are they hoping to get from him at this point? >> interrogating may be a bit of a grand word here, because it's certainly not the kind of interrogation they had planned, where they speak to someone. it's being conducted with notes and nods and because he can't speak, he's on a ventilator. so it's a very
the congregation disagreed with tamerlan and he was quote, shouted out of the mosque. speculation continues about why these two young men may have conspired to kill en masse, as the country marks a week since the deadly bombing. in medford, massachusetts, the funeral for 29-year-old victim, krystle campbell began just over an hour ago and at 2:50 p.m., president obama will join the city of boston in a moment of silence, mayor menino will observe the time from boston common. joining me...
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one worshipper described tamerlan, "he's crazy to me. he had anger inside. i can't explain what was in his mind." an aunt describes him as a chechen that became more devout as a muslim in the last couple years. friends of his wife and his brother say he brainwashed them. i'm joined by ambassador mark ginsberg. always good to see you. by the time tamerlan tsarnaev spent six months in dagestan he had already become radical in his religious views. let's set the scene. would it be fair to call dagestan ground zero? >> absolutely. i think it's going to be more and more prevalent. let's just assume for the fact here of not putting this gentleman into the equation but understanding. dagestan along with four other repolitics in the north caucasus region have direct ties to al qaeda and terrorist groups that have direct ties to afghani terrorists. this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the unit
one worshipper described tamerlan, "he's crazy to me. he had anger inside. i can't explain what was in his mind." an aunt describes him as a chechen that became more devout as a muslim in the last couple years. friends of his wife and his brother say he brainwashed them. i'm joined by ambassador mark ginsberg. always good to see you. by the time tamerlan tsarnaev spent six months in dagestan he had already become radical in his religious views. let's set the scene. would it be fair to...
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what is the conference going on right now about tamerlan? >> i think what people in the congregation feel is that he was really reacting to the modern american islam that's projected inside of our congregation, so inside of that second incident, you know, inside of that second incident, you know, after he stood up, after our, you know, preacher compared martin luther king, you know, to the prophet muhammad, and he stood up, he called our preacher a hypocrite, so then the people of the congregation shouted him out to leave. so i think the conversation in our congregation is that, you know he just didn't fit, in terms of kind of the idea allege, the mainstream moderate ideology that our mosque projects. >> there have been reports that his family wants him to be buried in the united states and is trying to find a way to bury him, to have a proper burial service for him, and i don't know whether the body has been released yet. do you know whats latest is on that? >> yeah, there were some reports out there that we had rejected his burial, or the
what is the conference going on right now about tamerlan? >> i think what people in the congregation feel is that he was really reacting to the modern american islam that's projected inside of our congregation, so inside of that second incident, you know, inside of that second incident, you know, after he stood up, after our, you know, preacher compared martin luther king, you know, to the prophet muhammad, and he stood up, he called our preacher a hypocrite, so then the people of the...
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one brother in particular, tamerlan, became increasingly radicalized over the last several years. we know now that the russian government expressed concern about him back in 2011. they warned the fbi he was a follower of radical islam. the fbi's investigation never turned up anything significant. tsarnaev traveled to the troubled region of dagestan for six months. it's where his parents live. it's a hub of jihadist recruitment generally. "the new york times" wrote yesterday -- actually, today. back home in the u.s., tsarnaev became more radicalized. "the boston globe" reports he disrupted conversations at his local cambridge mosque with outbursts of radical theology and created a youtube page. how did this lead up to the boston marathon a week ago? richard engel is nbc news' chief foreign correspondent. david is editor of the "new yorker" magazine. i want to start with richard, then to david. richard, why did the russians let him in if he was a problem for them a year earlier? >> it's common where you have governments watching people to give them some slack, to let them travel, to
one brother in particular, tamerlan, became increasingly radicalized over the last several years. we know now that the russian government expressed concern about him back in 2011. they warned the fbi he was a follower of radical islam. the fbi's investigation never turned up anything significant. tsarnaev traveled to the troubled region of dagestan for six months. it's where his parents live. it's a hub of jihadist recruitment generally. "the new york times" wrote yesterday --...
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we're talking about tamerlan now. he was married. he was married to an american girl, a western girl, that he would spend the weekends with her family at their home up in rhode island. he had a 3-year-old daughter about whom he was reportedly, you know, crazy. in a good way. loved his daughter. so how does that sit with this man who is accused of doing these terrible things? >> well, this is somebody who led two lives. realize, your point is that he wasn't with that wife and daughter, and, you know, i think if we get down and i'm sure the fbi will, interview the wife, interview the wife's family if she's around, i think we're going to find out that there was an aspect of his personality that they never understood, they never knew, they never saw. you know, alex, a lot of us wear masks sometimes as to who we are. some of us never take that mask off and never reveal the rest of our character. i think this is one of those guys. >> interesting. so were you to be involved, clint, in the fbi investigation, what would be the first thing you
we're talking about tamerlan now. he was married. he was married to an american girl, a western girl, that he would spend the weekends with her family at their home up in rhode island. he had a 3-year-old daughter about whom he was reportedly, you know, crazy. in a good way. loved his daughter. so how does that sit with this man who is accused of doing these terrible things? >> well, this is somebody who led two lives. realize, your point is that he wasn't with that wife and daughter,...
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i didn't know he was tamerlan's little brother. had i known that i would have gotten to know him. >> he told investigators it was religion and not a foreign terrorist group that motivated them. did you find them to be religious at all? >> not at all. i knew that they believed in their religion and the standards that were upheld in their country but they never were ones to run around pounding their chest with religion or trying to recruit anyone or bugging anyone else about their religion. they respected life at one point and i don't know what happened. >> you would describe your reaction to when you heard that they were the suspects as shock? stunned? >> shocked. incredibly shocked. it turned from anger like everyone else in the country to being extremely confused and shocked and having to pick up the pieces and see what is going on. i'm really proud of the fact that a lot of people have come around to seeing how it was a good idea to keep little brother alive because it would have put our authorities in a tougher situation. they w
i didn't know he was tamerlan's little brother. had i known that i would have gotten to know him. >> he told investigators it was religion and not a foreign terrorist group that motivated them. did you find them to be religious at all? >> not at all. i knew that they believed in their religion and the standards that were upheld in their country but they never were ones to run around pounding their chest with religion or trying to recruit anyone or bugging anyone else about their...
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but that all changed when tamerlan became deeply religious. he gave up the sport, citing his muslim faith. his father was furious. he grew confrontational. he angrily disrupted a talk at a cam bridge mosque when the speaker compared the prophet hohammed and the peace activist compared him to martin luther king and tsarnaev also interrupted a tack last november when a speaker said it was fine to celebrate the safe way as the birthday of the prophet. the growing interest of religion by both tamerlan and his mother caused an upheaval in the household with tamerlan even persuading his mother to cover herself up. and so why the schachange? and did his trip to russia play a role in radicalizing this young man? joining me now is brian bender, national security reporter for the boston globe and clint van zandt. clint, what would you think would have caused such a dramatic shift? >> i think there's a number of things we're probably going to find out in the 26-year-old brother's life, al. i think that he had a confrontation with a former girlfriend. she
but that all changed when tamerlan became deeply religious. he gave up the sport, citing his muslim faith. his father was furious. he grew confrontational. he angrily disrupted a talk at a cam bridge mosque when the speaker compared the prophet hohammed and the peace activist compared him to martin luther king and tsarnaev also interrupted a tack last november when a speaker said it was fine to celebrate the safe way as the birthday of the prophet. the growing interest of religion by both...
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the same age, in fact, as tamerlan. in dagestan. and he told the "globe" he was worried about the older brother being a bad influence on the younger brother and didn't think he was a good person. was concerned about that. he actually warned the younger brother, or so he claims, martin. >> michelle, let's listen to uncle ruslan tsarni who spoke earlier today. >> dzhokhar, if you're alive, turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness. from the victims, from the injured. >> michelle, there you have the uncle expressing regret, sadness and asking them to hand themselves in. and yet an aunt of the suspects who was interviewed in toronto, canada, says "i don't trust the fbi. show me the evidence. i am used to being set up. i'm a chechen." >> yeah, and neither of these people, those two that you mentioned, and one that we heard from at length, had spoken to these guys in years. so they want to obviously present their own -- their own views within what they're saying. i mean, you have that uncle -- it was a fascinating and stunningly strong sta
the same age, in fact, as tamerlan. in dagestan. and he told the "globe" he was worried about the older brother being a bad influence on the younger brother and didn't think he was a good person. was concerned about that. he actually warned the younger brother, or so he claims, martin. >> michelle, let's listen to uncle ruslan tsarni who spoke earlier today. >> dzhokhar, if you're alive, turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness. from the victims, from the injured. >>...
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after his older brother, tamerlan, was killed in a shootout with police early this morning. police are going door-to-door in the boston suburb of watertown where tsarnaev was last seen. the area has seen intense police activity all day long. a metro
after his older brother, tamerlan, was killed in a shootout with police early this morning. police are going door-to-door in the boston suburb of watertown where tsarnaev was last seen. the area has seen intense police activity all day long. a metro
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interviews tamerlan and the family. comes up with nothing. goes back to the russians and says, you know, we got nothing here. what else do you have? the russians don't respond. the fbi a second time asks them for something. then in september of 2011 the russians make exactly the same request, but this time they go to the cia. perhaps thinking they'll get a different response. the cia sends that over to the fbi. the fbi says we've already looked into this. there isn't anything. but, again, they say they asked the russians what more do you have? give us more, we'll chase it down. again, they say, the russians don't respond. as a result of these two requests to the fbi and cia, his name did go into a terrorism database. the sort of master terrorism tip database. so that when he did fly to moscow last january, the government knew about that. but it didn't take any action either when he left or when he came back because the case was considered closed. so that's what they did. now, here's the policy question. many members of congress are saying, we
interviews tamerlan and the family. comes up with nothing. goes back to the russians and says, you know, we got nothing here. what else do you have? the russians don't respond. the fbi a second time asks them for something. then in september of 2011 the russians make exactly the same request, but this time they go to the cia. perhaps thinking they'll get a different response. the cia sends that over to the fbi. the fbi says we've already looked into this. there isn't anything. but, again, they...
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tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as they can. what were they up to in the months leading up to the bombing, what did they do afterwards, did they talk about plans? were they in touch with other people? the quick answer to your question is we don't believe they are have. her lawyer says he's in touch with the federal authorities now trying to work out details of that. they are going to get to her. they will interview her. she, she can be subpoenaed if necessary. so that, that will be done. >> and there are conflicting reports of extensive reporting and a
tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as...
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any possible role tamerlan tsarnaev may have played. >> how could we miss all of the activity this guy engaged in? >> the fbi seized bbs and a large pyrotechnic. >> it was almost entirely done from the internet. >> he did not need to see his miranda rights read to him in bed. it's laughable. >> the enemy is radical islam. >> i'd waterboard him, myself. >>> you are about to look live at a press conference in boston. where governor deval patrick and mayor thomas menino are about to speak about the formation and purpose of the one fund boston campaign. designed to assist those who are affected by last week's bomb attacks. this takes place as dzhokhar tsarnaev lies in a hospital bed facing charges. his condition now reported as fair. more than a week after the bombing, 45 of the scores of wounded remain hospitalized, and at least 13 have lost limbs. for the victims, the physical and emotional toll comes with a very real financial one as well. massive bills for trauma care, prosthetic limbs and even home modifications. not to mention, lengthy physical rehab and psychological counseling. as
any possible role tamerlan tsarnaev may have played. >> how could we miss all of the activity this guy engaged in? >> the fbi seized bbs and a large pyrotechnic. >> it was almost entirely done from the internet. >> he did not need to see his miranda rights read to him in bed. it's laughable. >> the enemy is radical islam. >> i'd waterboard him, myself. >>> you are about to look live at a press conference in boston. where governor deval patrick and...
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his uncle said he ended his relationship with tamerlan in 2009 because of the quote radical crap" tamerlan had begun to espouse. he was steered toward a strict strain of islam in recent years and he began opposing the wars in afghanistan and iraq which is i should note here not radical in and of itself but that he also turned to websites and literature claiming that the cia was behind the terrorist attacks of september 11, 2001, that jews controlled the world. there are two very specific accounts of tamerlan's recent behavior that are both fascinating and important in trying to understand how he might have become the kind of violent extremist he is accused of having been when he died after a shootout with authorities late last week. the first is recounted in "the wall street journal" this week. quote, in one incident late november tamerlan confronted a shop keeper in a middle eastern grocery store in cambridge near a mosque where he sometimes prayed after seeing a sign advertising thanksgiving turkeys. brother why did you put up the sign the shopkeeper recalled him asking angrily. it's not
his uncle said he ended his relationship with tamerlan in 2009 because of the quote radical crap" tamerlan had begun to espouse. he was steered toward a strict strain of islam in recent years and he began opposing the wars in afghanistan and iraq which is i should note here not radical in and of itself but that he also turned to websites and literature claiming that the cia was behind the terrorist attacks of september 11, 2001, that jews controlled the world. there are two very specific...
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that man, tamerlan tsarnaev, was killed. after which
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the older man, tamerlan got out of the car. and with what authorities say appeared to be explosives strapped to his chest. he was shot by police. and then his brother, who was still in the car, simply pressed the accelerator to the floor and took off. and then at some point abandoned the car. there's some indication that he might have been wounded in that encounter with police. they can't be sure. because they don't know where he is. but they've seen some blood that indicates that maybe he was wounded. >> pete, i know we're going to have to let you go. but really quickly, they did carjack a mercedes suv at one point. and revealed themselves to be the two men behind the marathon bombing. do we know anything about the owner of that suv who was later released unharmed after spending half an hour with the two brothers? >> we do. we know who he is, we've decided not to name him since he's an innocent victim in all of this. but yes, he was just someone who happened to be driving around, unlucky to be in the place where they decided t
the older man, tamerlan got out of the car. and with what authorities say appeared to be explosives strapped to his chest. he was shot by police. and then his brother, who was still in the car, simply pressed the accelerator to the floor and took off. and then at some point abandoned the car. there's some indication that he might have been wounded in that encounter with police. they can't be sure. because they don't know where he is. but they've seen some blood that indicates that maybe he was...
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he's 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. he died with an improvised explosive device strapped to his chest. police began the search for the younger brother. 19-year-old dzhokhar who fled on foot after that fire fight. hundreds began sheltering it closely. the shelter in place order was spread out to include all of boston, all transit services stopped, all taxi services stopped. the city comes to a complete halt. in the midst of the search for the suspect at large another suspicious device is discovered back in boston. this was close to the site of monday's marathon bombing. that device is destroyed by police during a controlled explosion. that was sometime before 7:00 a.m. this morning. police then also investigate reports of suspicious devices at the cambridge apartment where the two suspects live. officials said unexploded devices were discovered but they have since been made safe. police convened another conference this afternoon to announce the search is still on. they were still focusing on finding this one young man, 1
he's 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. he died with an improvised explosive device strapped to his chest. police began the search for the younger brother. 19-year-old dzhokhar who fled on foot after that fire fight. hundreds began sheltering it closely. the shelter in place order was spread out to include all of boston, all transit services stopped, all taxi services stopped. the city comes to a complete halt. in the midst of the search for the suspect at large another suspicious device is...
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where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we have reports from radical tendencies even from people within his own mosque. who was he in contact with in the boston area? i think those are the biggest questions now facing investigators and people looking at how the fbi handled this case. >> michael isikoff, i got to leave it there. you're right. we got to figure out did the kgb not tell our guys or russian intelligence not tell our guys everything that they knew at the time? and will they tell us now? anyway, michael, thank you very much. >>> gaggle will be here next. running a little bit late. fi
where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we...
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>> one person we haven't heard much from is tamerlan's wife. what sort of picture do we get of her and what potential information could she provide? >> well, of course, a key potential witness. immediate family members help paint that 360-degree profile of what happened from the time of the event backwards. here's a big however to consider, though. okay? not saying this is associated with the old al qaeda, but like-minded groups tend to pull good tactics off the shelf. in the case of the old al qaeda under bin laden, they were the masters of compartmentalization. we might not be surprised if he kept that information, if not all information, from his wife. now, there's a possibility that she may in some ways have been wh whitting. if he had that type of training, they're very good at the need to know. >> but this is an individual he had a relatively long relationship with. and you're suggesting that he might have been able to hide everything from her? any of his inclinations of hatred toward america if he had that feeling toward america? he woul
>> one person we haven't heard much from is tamerlan's wife. what sort of picture do we get of her and what potential information could she provide? >> well, of course, a key potential witness. immediate family members help paint that 360-degree profile of what happened from the time of the event backwards. here's a big however to consider, though. okay? not saying this is associated with the old al qaeda, but like-minded groups tend to pull good tactics off the shelf. in the case...
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an exclusive against tamerlan. a source in russia tells nbc news russian intelligence reached out to the fbi last november about the 26-year-old. and crime scene units are back at the bomb site in boston right now. they're placing debris into garbage trucks. crews were seen sifting last night throughout that debris. let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i think the odds are pretty good that we'll see these charges in the next couple of hours. they're putting the final touches on them now. and we expect to learn a little more about what the fbi has assembled based on its investigation of the bombing. so perhaps there will be some new details that we'll get. in terms of the charges, i would think at the very least they'll charge him with the bombing, with a terrorism offense for that. and interestingly enough, under the federal statutes, which apply here, use of a weapon of mass destruct
an exclusive against tamerlan. a source in russia tells nbc news russian intelligence reached out to the fbi last november about the 26-year-old. and crime scene units are back at the bomb site in boston right now. they're placing debris into garbage trucks. crews were seen sifting last night throughout that debris. let's go to pete williams. with a good afternoon to you, pete, let's talk first about the status of the charges in this case and what the likely charges will be. >> yes, i...
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what more she can reveal about tamerlan? >> they want to talk to all of his relatives, all his family members, all his friends. anyone who knew him and would have any information about what he was doing in the months -- what both of them were doing in the months before the bombing and then after the bombing until the events started to unfold thursday night. her lawyer says she's been in touch with federal authorities and they're trying to work that out. they believe she'll have important information. she'll be able to say when did her husband become radicalizrad >> thank you, sir. joining me now is an msnbc news terrorism expert. the boston globe is reporting about two incidents, the other brother, tamerlan, had these angry outburst at boston area mosques. as we look at the emerging evidence, things that are coming forward, not only through what witness accounts are revealing but the fact that we learned that the fbi had an opportunity to question tamerlan back in 2011. are we going to learn there was some missed red flags l
what more she can reveal about tamerlan? >> they want to talk to all of his relatives, all his family members, all his friends. anyone who knew him and would have any information about what he was doing in the months -- what both of them were doing in the months before the bombing and then after the bombing until the events started to unfold thursday night. her lawyer says she's been in touch with federal authorities and they're trying to work that out. they believe she'll have important...
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tamerlan reportedly visited daily while he was there. do we know any more about the happenings at that mosque? >> no. but we have confirmed with someone who is a security adviser to the local government as well as to moscow who confirmed that there have been security campaigns in that mosque. there was a recent detention of about 100 to 200 people. there are rumors, and many people believe that there are people with militant backgrounds associated with that mosque. or at least who spend time in that mosque. there are a lot of people who are innocent and go there to pray. we're trying to clarify how often the son went. the aunt said he told her he was praying every day. >> thank you very much. let me bring in national investigative correspondent. the crime scene behind you, quote/unquote cleared and businesses and people are starting. i want to get to the detail of the investigation. just asked adrian who is in dagestan about this mosque. this becomes relevant because we're learning more about what the brothers may have been motivated by
tamerlan reportedly visited daily while he was there. do we know any more about the happenings at that mosque? >> no. but we have confirmed with someone who is a security adviser to the local government as well as to moscow who confirmed that there have been security campaigns in that mosque. there was a recent detention of about 100 to 200 people. there are rumors, and many people believe that there are people with militant backgrounds associated with that mosque. or at least who spend...
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tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman mike rogers, now we have more information about some evidence of him sort of dropping out of society, as it were, information after he comes back from foreign travel, postings on his youtube account and other social media indicating that he had exposure to jihadist elements whether that's connect canned to chechnya and the struggles there or otherwise. what do you know this morning and what do you want to know? >> it's important to understand why, in fact, the fbi interviewed him in the first place. so they had information from a foreign intelligence service that they were con
tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman...
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capture the 19-year-old, and it capped a nearly four-day search for dzhokhar and his older brother, tamerlan, and while the nation was reeling, we are getting word this morning that the brothers actually carried on with their normal lives. dzhokhar was seen working out at a college gym the day after the bombings where friends tell nbc news that he appeared normal and unfazed by the attack while older brother tamerlan was killed in the shootout. he wasn't a stranger to investigators. an article in the "los angeles times" says he told his mother about getting a call from the fbi in connection with the investigation. that report raised questions after news the russian government originally flagged him two years ago. >> they were concerned about his possible radicalization, and so they went from there. the fbi did their due diligence and did a very thorough job of trying to run that to ground. >> while boston plans remembrances and a moment of silence today, dozens remain hospitalized from the attack including at least two children. nbc's chris palone is in boston with the latest. good morning,
capture the 19-year-old, and it capped a nearly four-day search for dzhokhar and his older brother, tamerlan, and while the nation was reeling, we are getting word this morning that the brothers actually carried on with their normal lives. dzhokhar was seen working out at a college gym the day after the bombings where friends tell nbc news that he appeared normal and unfazed by the attack while older brother tamerlan was killed in the shootout. he wasn't a stranger to investigators. an article...
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well, besides the russia trip that tamerlan made last year. and i think that there's undoubtedly already been conversations and cooperation under way between russia and the united states to try to flesh out exactly what he did there and who he met with. but there's a broad international cooperation, that's what has distinguished us before 9/11 and after 9/11, so i'm confident the intelligence community has been touching all bases relevant to the threat of terrorism around the world to see if there's anything there, connections, you know, through the internet, connections, you know, through people that might have had contact with him as mike leiter was saying, as we pull threads based on, you know, the digital signatures that, you know, come out of this investigation, all of those will be exploited by the intelligence community. >> all right, p.j. crowley, i think you're going to stick with us for our next hour. >> sure. >>> but we'll take a quick break and be back with more on the investigation with nbc pete williams and roger cressey. zb÷a s
well, besides the russia trip that tamerlan made last year. and i think that there's undoubtedly already been conversations and cooperation under way between russia and the united states to try to flesh out exactly what he did there and who he met with. but there's a broad international cooperation, that's what has distinguished us before 9/11 and after 9/11, so i'm confident the intelligence community has been touching all bases relevant to the threat of terrorism around the world to see if...
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if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that doesn't mean that he cannot be tried in a civilian court. correct? >> that's correct. in fact, he is not allowed to be under the military commission law. 20, it exempts american citizens. so there is that. they could hold him indefinitely. that has to be done, maybe, and maybe not because he is a civilian. that's a question the supreme court has not answered. the purpose has to be to keep him off the battlefield. not to interrogate him. and what you're saerg is interrogation, be to keep him off the battlefield. and point, two it is certainly possible. he is involved in a larger network of cells that may be affiliated with al qaeda. that's why the fbi has deployed interrogators. that's why they will ask him before they mirandize him
if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that doesn't mean that he cannot be tried in a civilian court. correct? >> that's correct. in fact, he is not allowed to be under the...
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we know the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev is dead. we know two people in custody, not necessary related, that live in the apartment that these two brothers live in. willie, you have been covering things overnight. give us the tick talk through that convenience store robbery to where we are right now. >> as pete williams is pointing out for us this morning this came out because of the actions of these two alleged terrorists. they decided to rob a 7-eleven at 10:20 in cambridge. they went and murdered a police officer sitting in his vehicle at m.i.t. that led to a carjacking. they took a black mercedes suv. they held at gunpoint the driver of that car for 30 minutes before releasing the driver unharmed. at that point, there's a chase and authorities come into the town of watertown, as mike barnicle described it for us this morning. a bedroom community of 32,000 people and there was a shootout in the streets of watertown. suspect number one. the one we have come to known in the black hat. was on the ground. authorities found him with an
we know the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev is dead. we know two people in custody, not necessary related, that live in the apartment that these two brothers live in. willie, you have been covering things overnight. give us the tick talk through that convenience store robbery to where we are right now. >> as pete williams is pointing out for us this morning this came out because of the actions of these two alleged terrorists. they decided to rob a 7-eleven at 10:20 in cambridge. they went...
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what happened in russia is going to be critical for tamerlan. the second part is the internal family dynamic here. the role of the mother, how other members of the family saw what was happening and what they did -- >> the mother denies everything. >> well, she does. she also based on what we've seen from interviews was very, very devout and went on an extremist approach toward religion and toward the united states. clearly the relationship with her and tamerlan, the older brother, was important. and we're going to need to delve into that. >> you think she was an american hater? >> you know -- >> to use common sense here. if you're going to kill a bunch of people, you probably hate them. >> i'm not saying she was involved in the conspiracy, chris. based on what she said in her public statements, she played a fascinating role in influencing her, at least her older son, and possibly her younger son. that, we have to be careful here, but what i've seen she's said publicly is pretty disturbing. >> okay. thank you so much, gentlemen. this is tricky. w
what happened in russia is going to be critical for tamerlan. the second part is the internal family dynamic here. the role of the mother, how other members of the family saw what was happening and what they did -- >> the mother denies everything. >> well, she does. she also based on what we've seen from interviews was very, very devout and went on an extremist approach toward religion and toward the united states. clearly the relationship with her and tamerlan, the older brother,...
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tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated pict
tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we...
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tamerlan traveled to russia last year. stayed about six months. the big question right now, though is how did he spend his time there? an nbc news terrorist analyst, robin mcfadden served as the special agent in charge and deputy assistant director foreintelligence operations. good to have you both in the studio. you've been anne interrogator, we're been talking about this, the throat injury the suspect has, he's in serious condition. how do you interrogate someone who can't speak? you ask questions and they write on a pad? >> that's one possibility, but here we have just another challenge on top of a challenge under these circumstances. first and foremost, it's the medical clearance from the doctors working hand and glove with the personnel, the investigators on-scene and then once that medical clearance is given, and actually even before then, there could be a period where there's a personal connection, or a bond with -- i've been in situations before, serious injuries, but before there's a full medical clearance, could you actually be in the ro
tamerlan traveled to russia last year. stayed about six months. the big question right now, though is how did he spend his time there? an nbc news terrorist analyst, robin mcfadden served as the special agent in charge and deputy assistant director foreintelligence operations. good to have you both in the studio. you've been anne interrogator, we're been talking about this, the throat injury the suspect has, he's in serious condition. how do you interrogate someone who can't speak? you ask...
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he's 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. the older of the two brothers. police say he died with app an improvised explosive device strapped to his chest. that was rough live 1:00 a.m. with one suspect now dead, police begin a massive door-to-doorman hunt in watertown for the younger brother, the other suspect. 19-year-old dzhokhar who fled on foot after that five fight. law enforcement began canvassing that neighborhood very, very closely. a shelter in place order was issued for watertown and then the shelter in place order was spread out to include all of boston. all transit services stopped. all taxi services stopped much the city komts it a complete halt. in the midst of the search for the suspect at large, another suspicious device discovered back in boston. this one close to the site monday's marathon bombing. that device is ultimately destroyed by police during a controlled explosion. that was sometime before 7:00 a.m. this morning. police then also investigate reports of suspicious devices at the apartment where the two suspects lived. officials sa
he's 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. the older of the two brothers. police say he died with app an improvised explosive device strapped to his chest. that was rough live 1:00 a.m. with one suspect now dead, police begin a massive door-to-doorman hunt in watertown for the younger brother, the other suspect. 19-year-old dzhokhar who fled on foot after that five fight. law enforcement began canvassing that neighborhood very, very closely. a shelter in place order was issued for watertown and then...
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they are checking for any connections between tamerlan tsarnaev and this unsolved triple murder. the connections between these two crimes may be coincidental. there is no reason at this point to say there is more. but as the d.a. looks into this further, watch this space. >>> simply stated, there is no doubt that saddam hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. there is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us. >> not true, it turns out. when it comes to understanding what dick cheney was falsely alleging there, there is really no doubt what he was alleging, right? wmds, chemical weapons, biological weapons, that's what weapons of mass destruction means, right? why did the boston marathon bomber suspect get accused of wmds? there is an explanation coming up. [ male announcer ] this is bob, a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i
they are checking for any connections between tamerlan tsarnaev and this unsolved triple murder. the connections between these two crimes may be coincidental. there is no reason at this point to say there is more. but as the d.a. looks into this further, watch this space. >>> simply stated, there is no doubt that saddam hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. there is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us. >> not...
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fight parentally from what we know and has been reported killed his older brother, suspect number one, tamerlan tsarnaev. he was hiding in a boat underneath a tarp after escaping on foot for the hours of the lockdown. michael, what i think is so fascinating is that there came a moment in the afternoon where i think it began to seem like the trail had been lost and how long could they keep the lockdown going? you can't keep people indoors indefinitely. it seemed like the condition was because this guy's on the loose you have to stay indoors. it was ironically letting people go back outside that led to him being captured. >> actually, although you can argue that had people been outside, he never would have been able to walk down that very quiet, small street and holed up in that boat. i was struck by, how did he get there? i walked down the street. it's off a main thoroughfare in watertown. it's a small street, a lot of homes on it. a bloody man, wounded man walking down that street in this situation would have caught the attention of anybody. and it may well be, actually, because everybody was i
fight parentally from what we know and has been reported killed his older brother, suspect number one, tamerlan tsarnaev. he was hiding in a boat underneath a tarp after escaping on foot for the hours of the lockdown. michael, what i think is so fascinating is that there came a moment in the afternoon where i think it began to seem like the trail had been lost and how long could they keep the lockdown going? you can't keep people indoors indefinitely. it seemed like the condition was because...
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the chase ended when authorities shot and killed 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. nbc's pete williams reports he was run over by the car driven by his brother. and when police approached his body, they discovered an ied strapped to his chest. he was transported to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. let's bring in nbc national investigative correspondent, michael isikoff. let's talk about what we foe in the scene right now. the police have said they have new leads within the last few minutes that they are exploring and that they want everyone to stay inside. >> exactly. a pretty good sign that this situation is still very fluid, still very tense. and we don't know where it's going or how long the manhunt is going to be taking place. i should point out, andrea, that i am right behind what is the principal staging area for the police and the military here. all morning long we had convoys of military humvees coming in, buses of police, motorcycles, of state police, blackhawk helicopters have been flying in and over this area. landing just behind me on the other
the chase ended when authorities shot and killed 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. nbc's pete williams reports he was run over by the car driven by his brother. and when police approached his body, they discovered an ied strapped to his chest. he was transported to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. let's bring in nbc national investigative correspondent, michael isikoff. let's talk about what we foe in the scene right now. the police have said they have new leads within the last few...
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the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, was 26. nbc news learned he spent six months last year outside of the country. authorities are still piecing together where he went and what he did during that time. there are many questions tonight. joining me to help answer them is nbc investigative correspondent michael isikoff and former director of the national counterterrorism center michael leiter. and former fbi profiler clint van zandt. let me start with michael leiter. the other day, it seems like a year ago, two, three days ago you, had this sense, professional instinct, if you will, that this killer, one of the two bombers, was a local. tell me how you came to that assessment. >> well, chris, my take -- >> he is a local. >> he is a local and he's got deep ties to boston. and my take was there's no doubt that the boston marathon is a worldwide known event, but unlike many of the targets, a lot of people really have used in the past, there's something specific to boston about it. there's something specific about the finish line and
the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, was 26. nbc news learned he spent six months last year outside of the country. authorities are still piecing together where he went and what he did during that time. there are many questions tonight. joining me to help answer them is nbc investigative correspondent michael isikoff and former director of the national counterterrorism center michael leiter. and former fbi profiler clint van zandt. let me start with michael leiter. the other day, it seems like...
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whether tamerlan became radicalized, became very religious as has been described. whether it was some individual motivation or an imous that motivated these two brothers to do these horrible things. >> interesting diplomatic times ahead for sure. andrea mitchell. many thanks, as always. we have many unanswered legal questions today. why didn't the police read the suspect his miranda rights? how much can they talk to him in the hospital? well, bostonians are waking up to this headline in the boston globe "nightmare's end." and the accompanying picture pretty much sums up the sentiment perfectly. a weight of relief after such a harrowing week. aaaaah! theres a guy on the window! do something, dad! aaaah! aaaah! what is happening? they're rate suckers. their bad driving makes car insurance more expensive for the rest of us. good thing there's snapshot from progressive. snap it in and get a discount based on your good driving. stop paying for rate suckers. try snapshot free at progressive.com. if we don't double the number of kids graduating from high school in the nex
whether tamerlan became radicalized, became very religious as has been described. whether it was some individual motivation or an imous that motivated these two brothers to do these horrible things. >> interesting diplomatic times ahead for sure. andrea mitchell. many thanks, as always. we have many unanswered legal questions today. why didn't the police read the suspect his miranda rights? how much can they talk to him in the hospital? well, bostonians are waking up to this headline in...
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"the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem to have succeeded in putting a major u.s. city on lockdown, it may now dawn on al qaeda leaders that a series of small-scale attacks like this conversation the same impact as one spectacular mass casualty attack. through a combination of skill and luck, we've done well at preventing the next 9/11. preventing the next boston massacre might not be as easy. joining me today, former dnc communications director and msnbc host, karen finney, "new york times" op-ed columnist frank bruney, retired army sergeant wes moore and "mother jones" msnbc political analyst, david corn and msnbc justice correspondent, pete williams. let'
"the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem...
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number number one, his brother was 26-year-olds, tamerlan. one was born in curd stan and the other in russia. they have been living here in this country for about a decade. in watertown, nbc news justice correspondent and atf agent james cavanaugh and analyst roger cressy. live in watertown, we were listening together as kerry sanders was moved further and further back. what are you seeing? >> he is a few blocks away from here, but we are not hearing anything that he is hearing. it's quiet in this part of watertown. the helicopter that had been circling for the past few hours is no longer here. we have seen tactical units leave and others come back in. we haven't seen anything like kerry has been seeing a few blocks away from where we are standing. we don't want to give away too much because the police asked that we don't give out tactical information, but we are going on hour ten of a lockdown. people are not outside. maybe all of four or five residents come around to the area. that's very unusual whenever there is a media staging area peopl
number number one, his brother was 26-year-olds, tamerlan. one was born in curd stan and the other in russia. they have been living here in this country for about a decade. in watertown, nbc news justice correspondent and atf agent james cavanaugh and analyst roger cressy. live in watertown, we were listening together as kerry sanders was moved further and further back. what are you seeing? >> he is a few blocks away from here, but we are not hearing anything that he is hearing. it's...
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tamerlan from dagestan where his father and mother still live. in an interview with "the wall street journal" their mother said tamerlan had given your boxing and drinking and smoking as he turned to a religious life and told the paper he phoned her the night he died saying, quote, the police, they have started shooting at us. they are chasing us. telling her he loved her before the phone went silent. and his uncle who lives in maryland says he believes the older brother became radicalized in cambridge and not overseas and eventually drew in his younger brother. a lot of questions how to handle the remaining suspect. >> david wrote, you wrote about the culprits. >> yeah, i spent friday looking at a lot of the youtube web sites and so on that had been visited by tamerlan and they were -- they were all jihadists. no question he was spending a lot of time looking at and listening to really highly radical islamist preachers, video that al qaeda has put out and not so private interest. he was talking about this with a circle of friends both at his mos
tamerlan from dagestan where his father and mother still live. in an interview with "the wall street journal" their mother said tamerlan had given your boxing and drinking and smoking as he turned to a religious life and told the paper he phoned her the night he died saying, quote, the police, they have started shooting at us. they are chasing us. telling her he loved her before the phone went silent. and his uncle who lives in maryland says he believes the older brother became...
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that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about precisely how this was handled, but if you step back, there's a larger question here. that is when a foreign government gives us potentially derogatory information about someone, stop right there. should that create an entry for that person in the system? then keep going down the process. here, the fbi says they looked thoroughly at him, as much as they were allowed to do during this legal operation they're going in in this initial threat assessment. they find nothing. should that keep the listing, the watch listing active? or should it go away? these are and then if that person then flies to the country that
that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about...